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to do that the round table

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technology had on art and we did ask

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also you know well what impact has art

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conversation the crisscross conversation

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made it very apparent that it is a

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crisscross situation that they both do

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feed from each other and and

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derive a lot of new thoughts visions on

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lift here

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and this research then led to the

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development of the shape of the space

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but this is very real for a photo reel

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and you can tell that this artist knew

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technically what was going on with the

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painting but it's it's wonderful

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painting isn't it

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she took many different

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things that she has seen inside the

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vehicle assembly building and put it

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in this wonderful

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non-real form but capturing the essence

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of what that interior space is like

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stan stokes he did the lifting body

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the wings are swept forward

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this is the sky it looks like if you

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look closely though that's actually the

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in back of the astronaut here's you see

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the man's face and you see

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then what he's looking at

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this is titled sunrise suit up

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they show the artist suiting up

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center is in the center of the merritt

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and you think you know isn't that i mean

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one thing you have to remember that

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these are not like fords that come off a

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production line either when we just kind

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science and technology and and art is

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a fascinating subject and many people

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have talked about it so that was brought

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position over

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well i'm a classroom teacher and i've

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been working in this gallery on the

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other side of the exhibit the first side

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have thousands of visitors coming

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post activities for the teacher to work

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those 30 students will have particular

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assignments we'll send some to our over

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and some to mission control these

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students have been working on vocabulary

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development and also communication

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skills but each student will then

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receive instructions along with the

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teacher for other ways to interact in

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the gallery we've had kind of a unique

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experience because every student comes

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away with a different set of goals and

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different set of objectives that they've

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received from this so we've used this

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teacher but also for the students this

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is chris shell of the aerospace research

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application center here in indianapolis

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and chris could you please tell us about

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some of your involvement with this

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um i've been involved with assisting

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rick crossland in obtaining samples of

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spin-off technologies that have been

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developed over the past few years for

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volunteered over 20 hours of time here

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well thank you that's considerable thank

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you very much this is mr david hoppe

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of the indiana humanities council david

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activities of the council and how nasa

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came to be involved in the humanities

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conference please well generally

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speaking the council is involved in

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producing cultural programs or funding

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cultural programs for the people of the

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state of indiana

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in the case of our annual conference

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civic leaders to discuss issues and

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topics that are important to the

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what would constitute an educated person

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discussing the future of beauty

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human evolution

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uh also the citizen and the future state

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the changing roles of family

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we brought panels together to explore in

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also orson scott card the hugo and

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nebula award-winning science fiction

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novelist was here to

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address the conference as our keynote

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speaker we are with dr glenn bingle

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director of medical education programs

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at community hospitals in indianapolis

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that was one of the exciting things that

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many of the physicians have

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commented that they did learn

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uh about a lot of the things that nasa

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has developed that they are actually

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using today in their everyday clinical

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practice of taking care of patients i

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don't think they had appreciated the

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origin of this scientific

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technology until they were here that

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night and actually could see

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the moon landing and see the analogies

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and all the various things that have

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come back and have helped them in their

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everyday practice

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government technology and apply it to

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that business people have children

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business people to think more not only

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about nasa technology but technology in

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general would be through their children

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replicate the the most current

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exhibit that has been produced for the

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technology transfer area or the

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more senior level audience than

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the audience that it was targeted here

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for but that at least it was the best

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part our role in was to say how could we

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take some of those those technologies

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that are demonstrated there a dust

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buster or a thermal covering and and

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put it in a mode that a child could

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understand and make something out of it

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company say would you provide materials

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sunglasses dustbusters whatever so that

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work behind the scenes in our contacts

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bits and pieces of gear um one of the

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missions so they also then have an

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what december 6th saint nicholas day as

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technology transfer day there were

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lewis research center and you had

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community of research engineers in the

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corporations of indianapolis could you

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tell us more about that please

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program of this nature actually happened

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have an exchange where its people go

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to visit a company or or vice versa but

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they were delighted again to have that

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opportunity sit down with a dozen or so

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engineers have a sandwich and a brief

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formal presentation this is where we are

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but then to move into what's your

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problems where can i help you and that's

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what we would call the purest form of

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technology transfer what what our

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feedback was from the companies who had

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them they were delighted and are already

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asking when are we going to do it again

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could it happen again how often could it

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happen

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there were companies who wanted to

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participate but because of other

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conflicts did not uh you probably had a

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little better opportunity interacting

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with the nasa folks on the way back but

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my brief ones at least indicated that

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they found that interesting in a little

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different sense they usually go to

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professional meetings and meet their

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colleagues or they go an assignment to a

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company

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but here was a case of it was just sort

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of wide open throw it out and see and so

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we think it was a very successful

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prototype and we're going to present it

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back to to our funding source in code c

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and suggest that something like this be